I will go back to windows defaults to get the mousethreshold back Thank you for your time : " Here is some old conversation : You gave me a file with a curve but i can't enable acceleration on it.. It ignores the thresholds values in registry.. Things do get complicated if your mouse is set to Hz or Hz or Hz It is hz.. I am using your Windows emulation.. I tried again modifying in registry the threshold and it works.
MouseThreshold 1 value 3 MouseThreshold 2 value 0 the value in registry is in this "registry" directory.. Hey Mark The last link with the windows example gives me "file not found" Take a look at this three files: 1.
Sorry, I should have been clearer Where is the doubling that should happen when the theshhold is exceeded? That means 8x0 goes to 16x0, for example. Default Reg Windows 7 There is hardly any 1-to-1 and where is the doubling? All 3 are just normal SmoothMouse accel.
Note: NO green anwhere, always exact 1-to-1 black when less than threshold, and exactly doubled when faster than the threshold. Does your current mouse allow adjustment of the mouse CPI?
But that needs a mouse where you can change the CPI. I forgot to ask: What is your pointer speed slider setting in Control Panel? It does make sense, in that it should be the same as using a dpi mouse on Windows , and it makes sense in that if it feels good it is good! I don't think the Razer drivers can help here. Changing the Razer driver sensitivity will effectively change the mouse DPI, and you need the high mouse DPI to get the thresholds hit when using a high polling rate.
Hello Mr. Cranness, thank you very much for your hard work on Windows mouse acceleration and all the projects you have, and are, working on. You no doubt have helped many people and your expertise is invaluable! The main reason I did this was to be able to play more games, but also to get Windows' mouse curve. Upon doing some research, I discovered that unchecking "Enhance Pointer Precision" wasn't enough, and eventually was recommended your fix.
On the Windows side, everything runs fine except it only says I have 2. Alright, now that I have that established just in case it may be helpful, here are my questions: Should I keep everything default eg.
I just ordered a Razer Deathadder edition, will Razer's drivers get in the way and if I change anything will that change how the mouse fix works? If resolution plays a factor, I game on my external monitor x Hz but use my LCD main monitor at x 60Hz monitor for everything else Things may change, but with my current Razer Deathadder cpi or dpi edition , I play at cpi dpi with Hz and no accel in the driver. Will I have to reinstall every time I want to change something?
I think that is all my questions. Sorry for having so many and for the lengthy post - I just want to do this properly the first time.
Thank you very much, and keep up the great work! Hi Mark, I don't know if you have the time to help out a random noob, but here goes: I use a q-pad 5k mouse and my windows mouse speed is set to 4. I just created a fix using your fix builder and installed it, but I'm a little bit confused.
Also, if i change the pointer speed either in Windows or in the mouse driver, will it negate the effects made by the fix? Do I have to make a new registry file if i decide that I want to make changes to the cursor speed? Thanks :. I'm trying to completely disable all acceleration at all times in Windows 7. I want zero acceleration at any refresh rate, desktop, full screen, or windowed games. Is there no way to do this? Hello Mark.
EPP is ON. Raw input in games is off. Hi Is Windows 8. MouseMovementRecorder shows red and greens. They should be OK I use Razer drivers, and they do not interfere with my fixes. They sometimes mine did have a problem where they force turn-off "Enhance Pointer Precision" after every reboot, even if you want "Enhance Pointer Precision" ON Resolution is not an issue, but for XP monitor refresh rate might be an issue.
Because your main monitor is 60Hz, probably you will want a 60Hz fix-builder fix, but because your gaming monitor is Hz, it might be the case that you need a Hz fix-builder fix.
Once a fix is installed, it doesn't usually need to be re-installed. If you were to change the monitor refresh rates, you might need a new fix. To check which refresh rate you need to create a fix for, try 60Hz first, and: - Set the in-game max FPS to a low number, like 10fps, - have MouseMovementRecorder.
If 60 Hz is correct, you should see mostly black lines. If you see a lot green, try a Hz and repeat. Don't worry about each game's sensitivities unless you can feel a problem. If a game supports it may have to look online or look in the game setup options , choose Raw Input first, DirectInput next and normal mouse last. Quass said Leave it OFF probably. What scaling do you want in-game? The fix will still remove accel, but now the scaling will be confused, because the pointer speed is not the same as when the fix was built.
Yes, you have to make a new fix when you change the pointer speed. My fix removes acceleration caused by the Control Panel 'Enhance pointer precision' checkbox. It does not remove any accel that mouse drivers might add. It does not remove any in-game accel that games might have. It does not remove 'negative' accel that sometimes happens when the mouse is moved quickly.
On Windows 7, one MarkC fix will work for all refresh rates it does not depend on refresh rate. If you delete the SmoothMouse registry entries, then Windows uses internal copies instead, which have the same values as the default values normal accel.
The only way to remove SmoothMouse accel is to use a registry fix like mine. Iyr said The same fixes work. I've improved MMR a little in the latest ZIP file just uploaded August and it can be made to try harder to match up the mouse and pointer movement. Playing CS:GO won't mess my enhance option.
So what should I do to get 1-to-1? Hi, i am using windows 8. Can i know how to make it perfect again? I did some testing. In windows 8. Like a lot.
No black lines at all expect you moved mouse reeeaally slowly. Then i ran mouse rate checker. It showed only hz max my mouse is set hz on drivers. Well, nothing helped on the mouse problem so i rolled back to windows 8 where everything is fine. I did the same test. First ran MMR. Perfect function. Then i ran mouse rate checker and it showed hz as it is supposed to. So windows 8. Getting mostly red and some green in MMR. I use Win 7 64 bit with Microsoft Intellimouse 3.
Is the fix applied or not? I'm not in-game when I'm testing it. I do remember that the red and green didn't happen a few months back. I did change to an other another mouse and back to the first one. May this have affected the fix? I've tried on two different usb ports but the same problem occurs. If in the fix builder you chose "1-to-1", and are testing with "Enhance pointer precision" ON, you shouldn't see much red or green. What is the name of the fix file created what input parameters went into it to build it?
What pointer speed slider setting do you use? If you have made sure you rebooted after applying the fix, and it still shows colours, then please upload and post a picture of the MMR output along with answers to the questions above.
Mark Cranness How's this? That shows in one picture the mouse lag problems with Windows 8. Hi i have one question, when i use mouse mouvement recorder on my desktop nothing to report. But when i lauch bf4, i have some green and red line is that normal? Any idea? I applied the fix. And the mouserecorder shows good results except for an occasional red result. Do you know what could be the problem here? So it does appear do be working correctly except for an oocasional single red result.
Best regards. The occasional red or green can happen, and just means that either Windows is slow updating the pointer position, or that MMR is slow. You say : "Whenever i turn on mouse acceleration, or [ Hey Mark, to get hz xp feel to windows 7 is this number 1. I have an issue I just switched from Win XP to 7, when i try to play in game with the exact same settings, the sensitivity feels much higher and i suck now.
Can you help me please, because i'm frustrated with it, every game now makes me need to adjust my sens and i want it just like XP. But most often these result in lower sensitivity in 7. What details do you have for both systems? In Windows 7: To make the text on your screen larger or smaller. Use MouseMovementRecorder. Thanks for the reply :. This is assuming that SetPoint still works the same way it worked last time I experimented with it. Try setting it to "Use OS Implementation" and see if that helps.
The G's Setpoint doesn't have such options. I'm running out of ideas If you do, then I have run out of ideas, sorry. What does MouseMovementRecorder show when on the desktop? Hey Mark.
You are awesome by the way. You've helped me a lot with all your posts throughout the years. Ever since I stopped using XP like 4years ago my aiming never seem to have been the same. When using mousemovementrecorder and having the mouse set at via mouse settings it constantly goes between and Is there still no way to do it so it stays closer to or without dropping as much?
Another mouse related question.. When I'm playing and getting fps-drops I can feel it in my mouse. As if it's not as responsive. Is that CPU related? Thanks again Mark. People get overly concerned with so called "stability" when using a mouse at Hz. Windows polls mice, and if it is busy, it may miss the next polling time by a little. People compare and , and think : "close enough, at least its stable.
People compare and and think : "Oh nos!! Normally, MouseMovementRecorder tries to match up mouse movements with pointer movements, so as to display 1-to-1 if possible. If the pointer movement is delayed a little it happens that Windows is sometimes a little slow updating the pointer position , then MMR will wait a little while for the pointer movement. When it does this, the Frequency column Hz it shows will not be accurate. These delays seem more frequent on Windows 8 and 8.
With your current settings, the -noforcemspd launch option means 2 things: 1 You don't need a fix for csgo 2 The SmoothMouse curve is being ignored it is only used when EPP is ON, either because you have it on in Control Panel -you don't- or it is on because the game has the "EPP bug" and turns it on -the noforcemspd options stops that- Intellimouse Explorer 3. I think I might have had some accel when using XP back then.
Back then I wasent as much a settings-geek as I am now. When I play now with 1-to-1 movement i feel that the sensitivity is fine for like long distance aiming, but it takes forever to turn around. I remember it differently back then. But I cant remember I had acceleration that made my reflexshots go crazy.
My initial thoughts was that the SmoothMouseX and Y Curve is still active even though my accel was off. I thought that the curve represented, how can I put this, different speed of movement. As if there were 4 different speeds. Not acceling speeds. Like the gears on a car. You got 5 different speeds. But I guess that wouldnt make sense either. So if I got this right now.
The curves in regedit dont matter aslong as my accel is completely turned off? To answer your question I'm pretty sure I had all the accel commands in launch options back then aswell. Or used, like you said, one of the fixes. I would love to just sit down at a brand new installation of win xp, uncheck pointer prec, and start cs and feel if there's any difference.
Could you give me the curves for Win XP and ill try playing with accel on? Best Regards. You might have had accel on XP, for those games that turn "Enhance pointer precision" EPP ON by themselves, and if you didn't use options to disable that.
You could try some things, and experiment to see if any of those experiments match up with what you remember for XP. BTW, If using Windows 7, the "" in the formula above would be "" instead. VERY important for accel curves is what mouse polling rate you had and now have. To get the same accel from a curve, you will need to have the same mouse polling rate that you had on XP.
Since you did have Hz and now have Hz, then a matching curve can be still be built, but it needs special construction For now just try with Hz to see if the curve matches or not. Apply that REG fix. Thing 3 Maybe your IE 3.
Hey Mark, I installed your fix, and I had an issue. I installed everything correctly, but my mouse's horizontal sensitivity has become super inconsistent.
It will be jerky, and sometimes I can't even move it from side to side at all. I'm not super technically savvy, so if you need any more details about my specs please ask, but I would really appreciate your help because this issue is making my PC almost unusable.
My fix should not cannot cause any change to horizontal sensitivity that does not also affect vertical. The short manual here : ratmanual. Hey Mark, I remember that the MouseMovementRecorder had indicated acceleration before I had the fix installed, but now after resetting the registry settingt it does't show any acceleration.
Can you imagine why? With 'EnPtPr', it should show acceleration when no fix is applied but NOT show any acceleration when my fix is applied. MMR indicates acceleration when slow movements of the mouse display black and green lines, and fast movements of the mouse show mostly red lines, and if you calculate the ratio between the pointer movement numbers and the mouse movement number, the ratio gets higher the faster the mouse moves. If that doesn't make sense, let me know what numbers and colours you are seeing.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5. I am used to being able to scale the sensitivity with a windows like slider in Logitech Setpoint and fine tune it with DPI settings. I never had to touch the windows mouse sensitivity. Now the Gigabyte software does not have that functionality to scale with first a slider then the DPI settings.
It can only set the DPI settings. It used to be relatively simple to set any game up to one full swipe of the mouse pad would result in degrees rotation so with the mouse in the middle of the mat I could easily do a What ideally I would need is a switch where out of game EPP being off would make the sensitivity higher and then in game the sensitivity would be alot lower with EPP on.
I know that this was not the aim of the program, but would this be possible? In fact at its worse I can but my mouse from one side of the mat to the other and get 20 revolutions in game. Sorry for the late reply. OR if you are prepared to turn it on yourself before you start the game, OR you are prepared to download a program I wrote that sets various mouse things and create a shortcut to that before running the game, then that is also possible, even if Batman AA does not set EPP ON in-game.
As you say, the original aim of the fix builder is to build a fix that gives exact 1-to-1, which means your full mouse CPI of or while EPP is ON. And that is too fast. You have 2 options : 1 Does Batman AA allow an in-game sensitivity adjustement? If so, try setting that lower. This will give you a lower in-game sensitivity, the same sensitivity you get on the desktop. If you change the Control Panel pointer speed slider you will need to build another fix and also enter N for that an 'N' fix can only exactly match 1 slider setting at a time.
I can see what you are saying after reading it twice , but doesn't changing the registry the builder gives you a registry key, right require a logout to take effect? I did find a method to change Batman AC sensitivity via config files, its just borderlands 2 which requires a hex editor to change the sensitivity, so I just give in and play with dpi.
I have to keep a log of how to fix each game or I'd be googling how to do it over and over just upgraded my pc and I'm dual booting. Yes it does, I assumed that step, but did not explicitly say it. I don't know yet, I have not yet tried it on Windows Hello, Marc! I have a question My monitor: Samsung SyncMaster bw 75hz , pixel 0. I am also using the Logitech G5 laser with Vista 64 and 7 Have you tried going into the Logitech Drivers and disabling pointer acceleration?
Just tested on Win 7, and no it does not take acc. If you think CPL mouse fix does anything in Vista or 7 then you are experiencing the effects of placebo.
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